Tom Brady 2007 NFL MVP

towelboy Posts : 4 Join date : 2008-01-12

Not much of a shocker. Got 49/50 first place votes (1 went to Favre).
He's sure building up quite a resume. Where would you rank Brady all time?

towelboy Posts : 4 Join date : 2008-01-12

is this award the same as the NFL MVP that the league gives out, or is the AP a different award?

towelboy Posts : 6 Join date : 2008-01-12

This is the NFL MVP Award:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3182557

If Brady leads his team to another Super Bowl win this postseason, then it'd be hard to say he isn't the greatest of all-time.

Now, I really want to read the arguments as to otherwise....

towelboy Posts : 4 Join date : 2008-01-12

Who was the one person that voted for Favre? Someone should go hunt him down

wannabe Posts : 3 Join date : 2008-01-12

At least Favre got 2nd place and no Moss

towelboy Posts : 4 Join date : 2008-01-12

The one person voting for Favre should have his media credentials taken away.

towelboy Posts : 4 Join date : 2008-01-12

Pretty obvious, I wonder who voted for Favre LOL.

JV Posts : 88 Join date : 2008-01-12

MADDEN

towelboy Posts : 4 Join date : 2008-01-12

Quote :: Not much of a shocker. Got 49/50 first place votes (1 went to Favre).
He's sure building up quite a resume. Where would you rank Brady all time?

I had him in the 10-15 range before this season. Top 10 for sure now, maybe even top 5.

Posted this before, but this is coming into this season some of his accomplishment

JV Waterboy Posts : 11 Join date : 2008-01-12

If he does win another superbowl + superbowl MVP, I don't see how he isn't the best QB ever.

4 superbowl rings, 3 superbowl MVPs, 1 MVP, the all time TD record, 16-0, etc, and he's just 30.

Keep in mind I don't like the Patriots and I don't like Brady

JV Waterboy Posts : 7 Join date : 2008-01-12

imho a vote for Favre is reasonable enough that the guy should keep his vote, it is however pretty hard for me to fathom making this choice. How do you vote against the guy who statistically had the best year ever, plus performed effectively perfect in the clutch for the year?

towelboy Posts : 5 Join date : 2008-01-12

As for where I rate Brady now, I refuse to do so until the playoffs are over. If he leads his team to the title, he'll certainly be ahead of Manning, and he'll be right up there with Montana.

Will that make him the GOAT? Hell no, Otto Graham remains #1 for me. For Brady to surpass him, Brady has to have a career that for all intents and purposes ends debate between himself and the Montanas, Elways, etc. While debate is still reasonable between those guys, I can't avoid the fact that Graham's career was more successful than anyone else in history by a drastic margin, no matter that it took place 50 years ago.

JV Waterboy Posts : 7 Join date : 2008-01-12

Brady deserves the MVP award, he had a helluva year. I don't mind the one vote for Favre, though...he had a great year, too, probably his last.

towelboy Posts : 6 Join date : 2008-01-18

FallonJn wrote:: As for where I rate Brady now, I refuse to do so until the playoffs are over. If he leads his team to the title, he'll certainly be ahead of Manning, and he'll be right up there with Montana.

Will that make him the GOAT? Hell no, Otto Graham remains #1 for me. For Brady to surpass him, Brady has to have a career that for all intents and purposes ends debate between himself and the Montanas, Elways, etc. While debate is still reasonable between those guys, I can't avoid the fact that Graham's career was more successful than anyone else in history by a drastic margin, no matter that it took place 50 years ago.

a lot of people always forget about graham